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Feb. 1st, 2010 @ 12:15 pm idly wondering
Does anybody find it disconcerting (no pun intended) when they hear a live version of a song that is not in the same key as the recorded version they know and love?

I'm getting that right now with Phil Collins, of all people.
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Amadeus
ideealisme:
Jul. 6th, 2009 @ 09:56 pm Relative Pitch over Perfect Pitch?
Why is it that some perfect pitch possessors claim that relative pitch is more important then perfect pitch alone when playing music?

That's all folks!

Elcon
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elconscious:
Jul. 1st, 2009 @ 12:01 pm perfect pitch curiosity
Hi, my name is julien. I've been interested in AP phenomenon for few years now and I always had a lot of questions I would like to ask to people with perfect pitch. So if you don't mind here are a few:

1) Is it easier for you to recognize pitches on your own instrument kind than on others? Do you feel like you had to sort of learn the pitches on others instrument  ?

2) (linked to 1) Do you think the color of pitch is independant of intrument or dependent on timbre. Therefore do you perceive the tones on different intruments differently ? Do you think the of the individual pitch qualities as a refined timbre perception: timbre allow us to distinguish between different intrument sources whereas pitch color allow us to distinguish between the different pitch sources produced by an instrument?

3)  When you hear a chord. Do you hear it as a whole or do you hear it as several pitches played simultaneously. If you hear both do you hear the individual pitches before?

4) When you hear a chord progression, do you hear in a harmonic way (a succession of tones played in harmony) or as different lines of notes being played in parallel (like hearing the bass line, soprano lines and alto lines evolving simultaneously) ?
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toneblend:
Jun. 30th, 2009 @ 09:53 pm How do they do it?
My name is Elcon, I sing and mess around the keyboards and harmonica and interested in aurall musical abilities. I also have a decent pitch memory.

I'd like to get to some questions I have:

1. Imagine any tone, what timbre is it and would you have an explanation for that particular timbre?

2. Is there any difference in effort or simplicity in recalling just a single tone and the recall of any song in their correct key? 
(What is important here is merely the accurate key of the piece/song and not the entire song with all its instruments and sounds) 

3. When you recall a tone, with your best intention to have it accurate to the musical standard, in most cases A = 440, do you only need that one tone or would you use a song to adjust or determine its accuracy?

4. Do you ever notice to be off-pitch when mentally recalling tones? If so, what do you do about correcting this?

5. For us singers, do you notice going flat or sharp gradually when singing acapella? If so, would you notice immediately or at some other point perhaps?

Can I ask one more?

6. If you feel that perfect pitch is all about recognition, how do you explain the recall of tones without external reference?
Could perfect pitch be pitch memory instead? If you don't believe so, could you elaborate on it? 

Awesome, I am looking forward for interesting answers already!

Take care and have a wonderful day!

Elcon
 
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elconscious:
Jun. 28th, 2009 @ 09:09 pm Hi
Hello, looks like things have been dead for a couple months. I'm new here, just saying hi. I go by Doranwen online (Doran for short), I play piano, soprano recorder, a little guitar, and have played violin in the past. (I also try to play dulcimers--hammered or not--anytime I run across one.) I know I've got good relative pitch for sure, and I'm pretty sure I have something of absolute pitch as well. I'm not always perfect about it--sometimes I'm off a little when I have to identify a single note. I can almost always get the key of a song hearing it by itself, and offkey-ness bugs me to no end, but I can transpose music and sing a different key than I'm reading it (though I'm usually QUITE aware that it's not right and it's a really odd feeling). In the medium range I'm the most accurate with notes--when it gets higher or lower I'm not always right on (until someone's confirmed a pitch, then anywhere they go on the keyboard I can get it, thanks to relative pitch). I'm not rigid about concert pitch either, there's a bit of flexibility. I've played on a lot of out-of-tune and old pianos in the past, and I think that's saved me from going bonkers, lol. Mostly what I do musical these days (besides just listening and enjoying music) is transcribe pieces that don't have sheet music, either for my parents or just because. The latest one I did was called Mr. Simon, a piano/vocal piece (my dad wanted to perform it at church but the only thing available was a $15 accompaniment track--he preferred that my mom be able to play it). If you're curious, you can see the result here (needs Sibelius Scorch to see/play).

I think one of the things I always sensed growing up that puzzled me that I couldn't figure out why no one else did, was how *different* black and white keys sounded. White keys had a crisp clear sound, and black keys had a warm rich sound. And everyone I told this looked at me blankly like "OK, I don't know what you're talking about." I feel like this is a basic thing, am I right? Or is it something weird that most people don't sense?

Does anyone else feel like each key has its own feel, its own emotion? Even the minors don't sound alike. D minor to me has a weeping sad sound, very emotional. B minor is incredibly sad too, but it feels like the emotions are all locked up and don't know how to escape.

And one more question: Anyone out there who does NOT have synaesthesia but feels like keys have their own colors? I know I'm not a synaesthete, but I feel like different notes have their own colors, which have something to do with how they sound. (I don't see the colors when I hear music, just when I think about it.)
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Reading One Book
doranwen:
Feb. 11th, 2009 @ 01:08 am Apologies if this is inappropriate here
Mods please feel free to remove if it's a problem.

I'm aware that a few of you here might also be members of pianists. Up till an hour ago this was an active community with 1,600 users and many useful posts for people to look at and reference.

ETA: have removed the rest of the post in the interests of fairness as it seems increasingly clear that the moderator's account has somehow been hacked - similar things have happened elsewhere.
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Amadeus
ideealisme:
Jul. 22nd, 2008 @ 01:33 am First post
Current Music: nothing - I daren't risk it!
Hello

I hesitated about joining this community since I have remarkably little to show achievement-wise for possessing absolute pitch :) but then stuff like the following that happened to me today prompted me to make a post:

http://ideealisme.livejournal.com/81880.html

Does anyone have that experience where they start being aware of what a note is and then they're aware of EVERY note around them? I mean the phone tone (C major), the printer (F again, an octave lower), the garbage truck near Grafton Street (B). And then you find yourself remembering the key of "I Should Be So Lucky" by Kylie Minogue...it is truly amazing the amount of junk that fits into my brain.

and then of course if you're like me and worried you're going flat you just have to go check the note to make sure it really is what you think it is.
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Amadeus
ideealisme:
Jul. 19th, 2008 @ 07:26 pm just curious...
I'm just curious...are there any TAs (teaching assistants/grad student teachers) here? I'm going to be one in the fall for written music theory. If you are a TA, and you have AP...do you disclose it to your students? Or do you make an effort to hide it?

I only had one aural theory TA with it (I only took a year of aural theory because I skipped sophomore theory, written and aural, completely) and she only admitted it to me during an individual exam. I'm pretty sure another one of my TAs (not aural theory) had it as well, and a couple professors, none of whom mentioned it...I just have a really strange, almost psychic ability to sense when certain people have AP!
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por_que_no:
Jul. 17th, 2008 @ 02:46 pm Hi again
Current Music: Orchestral Suite in C Major, BWV 1066
Hey, I've been a member of this comm in the past, but I've gotten a new journal. (Old one was noscream_bone if you care to dig back that far in the archive, lol.)

Quick recap: 17, I play bassoon, oboe/English horn, and flute/picc mainly (flute/picc as a hobby), I have AP, I speak both English and Chinese (Mandarin) natively.

So, I'm about to go off to university as a music ed/comp double major, and I have a few questions about theory/aural skills classes.

1. What are they usually like? I'm not so worried about it as I'm just curious about how it works.

2. Should I keep my absolute pitch hidden completely, let people figure it out themselves, or not even worry about it? I'm used to saying nothing about it unless asked, if that helps.
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grammarsuigintou
coranglaisman:
May. 13th, 2008 @ 09:46 pm (no subject)
What are some good methods to improve one's ears?
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gbu
dear_harmony: